# B&R PP 41 spare

**URL:** <https://community.br-automation.com/t/b-r-pp-41-spare/7584>\
**Category:** HMI & Visualization\
**Tags:** power-panel\
**Created:** [July 10, 2025, 11:03am UTC](https://community.br-automation.com/t/b-r-pp-41-spare/7584 "2025-07-10T11:03:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![Andrii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/FF8800/32.png) [@Andrii](https://community.br-automation.com/u/Andrii)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 11:03am UTC](https://community.br-automation.com/t/b-r-pp-41-spare/7584/1 "2025-07-10T11:03:00Z")

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Hi there!  
Our customer has an obsolete machine Manumold45e with power panel B&R PP41 installed (with additional input/output modules). The company which manufactured molding machine does not exist anymore. Our customer set the task for us to prepare spare panel (HMI and PLC) for the molding machine to reduce downtime if something happened with the original one.  
I would really appreciate it if you could help with the following questions:

1. Is it possible to make a backup from the original panel ( including operating system, visualization and PLC program) and download this backup to the spare panel?
2. As i understand, PP 41 is an old product and not supported for service anymore, could you suggest a reliable supplier for the spare panel?  
Thank you in advance for your reply!

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**Author:** ![oliver\_D](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/brcommunity/user_avatar/community.br-automation.com/oliver_d/32/257_2.png) [@oliver\_D](https://community.br-automation.com/u/oliver_D)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 11:14am UTC](https://community.br-automation.com/t/b-r-pp-41-spare/7584/2 "2025-07-10T11:14:14Z")

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Hello,

here is how to backup an old SG3 target:

> [@Upload program from PLC SG2003](https://community.br-automation.com/t/upload-program-from-plc-sg2003/4127/2):
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> Hello Roger, I am sorry but it is impossible to upload the source code of PLCs as B&R downloads compiled binary files. It is only possible to upload this files and to create a backup which could be downloaded to the same PLC. Nevertheless this uploaded modules cannot be modified. Here is a description how you do this: [HowToBackupSG3Targets\_eng\_AT.pdf](https://community.br-automation.com/uploads/short-url/kq0CjOuiWkkoqVIsC80dRP54Oa8.pdf) (1,0 MB) best regards !

I cannot give any “reliable” seller for B&R hardware other than B&R 😉  
I would suggest that you get in touch with your responisble B&R office and ask if any PP41 is still available

best regards  
Oliver

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**Author:** ![Andrii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/FF8800/32.png) [@Andrii](https://community.br-automation.com/u/Andrii)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 11:24am UTC](https://community.br-automation.com/t/b-r-pp-41-spare/7584/3 "2025-07-10T11:24:26Z")

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Hi Oliver!  
Thank you for the quick answer and usefull link!  
I’ll contact B&R and, hopefully, they will suggest something)  
Have a good day!  
best regards,  
Andrii

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**Author:** ![oliver\_D](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/brcommunity/user_avatar/community.br-automation.com/oliver_d/32/257_2.png) [@oliver\_D](https://community.br-automation.com/u/oliver_D)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 11:25am UTC](https://community.br-automation.com/t/b-r-pp-41-spare/7584/4 "2025-07-10T11:25:15Z")

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Thank you - you too  
Fingers crossed they can help you 🙂