There is a lot of buzz about it, as well as huge expectations. I know it’s still a BETA version and that there’s a long way to go, but I’d like to hear from you — your first real user experiences. What do you think about it? Is it the right way to go? What do you like? What are you missing?
To encourage you, let’s start with a short survey. Have you already installed Automation Studio Code?
We’ve installed AS Code and are using it regularly.
We’ve installed AS Code for testing, but we’re not using it regularly.
We haven’t installed AS Code yet, but we’d like to.
We’re not interested — Automation Studio is enough for us.
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Curious about the results and I will really appreciate any comments.
I was waiting for AS Code since it has been announced last year. I’m working in PLC and backend development, so it was always a pain to use Automation Studio when I use modern IDE’s the rest of the day.
In our PLC we are mixing ST and C code.
My first findings from AS Code:
I did not find an easy way to jump between ST and C files. In Automation Studio there are “jump to implementation / declaration / definition” and I did not find anything similar in AS Code.
Opening of a file can be slow or it won’t open
The support of ST code (syntax checking, autocompletion, shortcuts) is not that good at the moment
Compiling and transfer of a project takes way longer on my system than with Automation Studio.
I really think AS Code is the right way and a good thing for the future. But it needs improvements to become a good alternative to Automation Studio.
Thanks @Jonas_Keller, I really appreciate your honest feedback. Just so you know, even if it doesn’t always seem that way, members of the B&R Community are product and component owners as well. So everything mentioned here can be taken as feedback from real users, which is always valuable. What about the others?
I just installed AS Code but haven’t worked with it yet. Without having studied it in detail, I’m asking myself the following question.
During an Automation Studio training course, I’m learning the basic steps for project creation, configuration, and initial commissioning of a controller. Who is AS Code aimed at? And what do I need to learn in addition to using Automation Studio to be able to use AS Code efficiently? Or to put it another way, what course content (AS Help, Community, e-learning) should be available, and who is it aimed at?
Not an Automation Studio Code, but related to…I wish there was an option to turn off the ‘Please open in Automation Studio Code to edit’ area in the code editor of Automation Studio.
I think it’s better to right-click program.st and move it through the Open as Automation Studio Code option.
Regarding your first mentioning:
If you Ctrl+Left-Mouse click on something you can browse to its definition. Or left click and use the menu.
Browsability between ST and C, and also browsing from a C file to its .var/.typ declaration is currently in the works. That is not feature complete yet. As we are using clangd for C andour own IntelliSense implementation for ST.
We are working on this. In 6.5 you will be able to hide the Open in AS Code button.
The mentioning as Open with… we also have been thinking of. Will see if that gets to be implemented or not
VSCode uses their own implementation and we are using the official git integration that is in theia. We were at first also quite surprised why it is so different. Apparently VSCode added a bunch of their own there.
But the GitGraph version on VSX should be the same as the one in VS Code
I’m trying to use AS code. I think it’s a good direction for the future, but right now it’s hard for me to use because the hinter doesn’t work as well as in normal AS.
I’m programming in C and the problem for me is that when I write a variable structure and a dot, I would expect the hinter to suggest variables from the structure, but instead it suggests generic suggestions.
I also program in c and had the same problem. I fixed this by installing the clangd language server for c/c++ and now autocomplete works just as it would in AS.
Friday, 2 months later.. So lets refresh our discussion
I think Automation Studio Code has changed a lot. So what is your experience now? Do we have now more users who use it regularly? or any other comments?
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