Hi all,
I’m currently in a situation where we are looking for a solution to replace our existing APC3100 that serve two purposes
- Retrofit older Generation machines running XP / Win 7 as a Win10 Upgrade currently
- Power our new generation machines running Win10 + Hypervisor
Both generations do have the commonality that we use a two monitor setup. So we have a monitor (Automation Panel) on the front of the tool and one at the back. Both connect to the APC through SDL/DVI. The screens are set to Duplicate in Windows and we lock on or the other through ADI and PVI.
Since the APC3100 is going to LTB phase we need a replacement which can serve the above without major upgrade needs. Especially our dual monitor requirement is kind of a problem because i cannot seem to find a suitable solution for this.
The APC3200 catched our eyes BUT that only comes with Display Port onboard and SDL 4 as an IF card (which could subsequently only power 1 monitor)…
The other problem is that the old generation tools we cannot simply exchange the monitors so the old SDL/DVI is a given at least on the monitor side.
Hope someone might have an idea on what could potentially work.
Appreciate any feedback!
-Robert
Thank you.
I have seen that just recently this IF card was added to be available for APC3200’s.
However it does not address our issue with 2 Monitors since the APC itself only offers Display Port Interfaces.
Additionally it shows as being in “Classic” phase.
Hello Robert,
For retrofit applications, the 5ACCLI02.SDL0-000 (SDL for xPC3200/APC4100) will be available. This would provide one SDL port for the APC3200 when upgrading existing panels, but it doesn’t help with the native DisplayPort on the APC3200.
It would help to understand what Automation Panel model number(s) you are connecting to. For capacitive multi-touch Automation Panels, the DisplayPort receiver (5DLDPO.1001-00) can be used to communicate display + touch (via DP + USB) back to the APC. For resistive single-touch Automation Panels, then it gets a bit trickier.
Regardless of the display communication protocol used for each display (DisplayPort/SDL/DVI/etc.), you will be able to duplicate the Windows display on multiple monitors using the APC3200.
-Austin
Thank you for the reply Austin.
Our application is indeed tricky. We are talking about obsolete Panels:
5AP820.1505
So replacing a receiver is not an option as its not even possible
If we were in the situation that we could “just” replace the link module of the monitors we would go with DP + USB anyway.
Additionally there is also the question if using DP + USB would still allow to use ADI to lock the touch of a panel?
Our application is indeed tricky. We are talking about obsolete Panels:
5AP820.1505
So replacing a receiver is not an option as its not even possible
If we were in the situation that we could “just” replace the link module of the monitors we would go with DP + USB anyway.
Oof, that is indeed tricky. The single-port, built-in SDL interface doesn’t leave room to adapt the interface. While you can passively convert DisplayPort to DVI (screen portion of SDL), it doesn’t include the touch, USB, or panel controls.
I’d recommend reaching out to your B&R sales representative to have a wholistic conversation about the next steps/next generation.
Additionally there is also the question if using DP + USB would still allow to use ADI to lock the touch of a panel?
Unfortunately, the panel controls are not transmitted via USB or DisplayPort. DisplayPort handles the screen/pixels, and the USB handles touch registration.
-Austin