I am very interested in building a motion training panel, and I have what is shown in the photos: a display, an ACOPOSmicro, and this 3585 PLC. Although I could probably dispense with the ACOPOSmicro and look for another servo kit with motor and connect it to the PLC via CAN or PROFINET interfaces, that is not the plan — I want to learn ACOPOS properly.
So, what I am missing is the motor and a power supply to feed it. Here I want to be very explicit: I only have a nominal voltage of 127 volts AC available to carry out my project. I have read in the ACOPOSmicro manual that the power supply 80PS080X3.10-01 can be used to power the ACOPOSmicro, but it requires 440 VAC and I do not have that voltage.
Is there any way to adapt a power supply that uses 127 VAC and obtain the DC voltage required to drive a motor from the 8LVA family? For example, I saw that this is one of the smallest motor series.
I think I have many questions and very little knowledge. Could you please guide me on which B&R servomotor you would recommend using and which power supply would be suitable for the ACOPOSmicro (and the kit cables offcourse) ? I am attaching a photo of the hardware I have.
Hi @jesus_najera ,
I like so much your motivation!
My notes:
Automation Studio 4.x or 6.x? Unfortunately your X20CP3585 is not supported on the AS 6.x, please in general have a look on Discontinuations page in AS 6 Help
In your case I recommend to install the latest AS 4.12.9.18
For the motion control, mapp Motion or ACP10 (Legacy)?
For what I understood from your previous post you prefer ACP10
Safety HW: In your picture I see few DI and DO safety modules but I don’t see Safe Logic, Have you bought that? At the first step let’s focus on motion control for few weeks…hehe
Motion HW: I don’t see problem on 8LVA motor family, as you said you are building a motion training panel so you need small motor to test few concepts.
On Internet you find many tutorial videos regarding Automation Studio, for your case (you don’t have motor yet) I recommend this one: Motion Control Simulation
Motion Training Modules (you have to login on our website first):
Hello Valerio, thank you very much for your feedback. To be honest, the safe I/O modules are basically just for show — I don’t even know how to use them. I simply had them lying around and connected them to the PLC, haha.
That was a great tip you gave me — simulating the axis sounds brilliant. From what I understand, the ACOPOSmicro will think that an axis is connected and I will be able to see a simulation in Automation Studio. That sounds great.
It is very gratifying to know that specialists in the field are reading my posts. I will definitely start watching the video you suggested and reading the training modules you recommended.
Regarding my question about obtaining the voltage to supply the motor using the 127 VAC that I have available at home, do you have any comments? If you feel you cannot comment on that point yet, I appreciate it anyway.
Regarding my question about obtaining the voltage to supply the motor using the 127 VAC that I have available at home, do you have any comments?
I’m sure in the first application with ACOPOS micro servo, the power supply 80PS080X3.10-01 was not ready yet, so I saw customers connected several 24 VDC power supply in series
in our Motion Trainings we use a ACOPOSmicro with LVA13. One with Brake, one without.
In Regards to the PowerSupply we use the Standard 24V DC Supply also for DC-Input for the Drive. If you only rotate the Motor without load you do not generate much Energy on Braking, so you don’t need the “Braking Chopper” Feature, to dispense generative Energy.
The LVA Motors are made for 80V , if you use 24V you only have to consider lower reachable max Velocity. Rule of thumb 24V/80V = 0,3
3000 U/min at 80V DC → ~ 1000 U/min at 24V DC
If you want to connect a load to the motor you can use one channel of the ACOPOSmicro as Breaking Resistor Channel, if you connect a Braking Resistor.
In this way you can also use a Standard DC-Supply even with generative Energy. But i don’t think this will be nessesary for Training.
Btw. you can do this also to an ACOPOS P3 for Training purpose. Use the 24V as DC Input and drive a Motor, only the derating of the Velocity is higher. But for Training this is normaly enought.
No Need for high Voltage in Training Scenarios, makes also Safety Guideance more easy.
Hello dear friends,
I am seriously considering purchasing an 8LVA23.R003D000-0 servomotor for my ACOPOSmicro, 80VD100PD.C022-01, but I cannot see it in my version of Automation Studio. I am using a trial licence, as you can imagine. Could this be the reason why I am unable to view the motor when adding it to the ACOPOSmicro in the System Designer? I am using AS 4.7.2.98.
As always, I appreciate your guidance and support in this matter.
What I think is that, since the acoposmicro I have is a Resolver version, it should use a motor that has 8lvaxx.R in its description. However, as I only see 8lvaxx.B motors available, I’m thinking they might not work if I buy one with the “B” in its nomenclature.
Hehe, I’m probably mistaken — could you please clarify this point for me?
